tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post3074592523319452397..comments2023-07-30T01:08:43.318-07:00Comments on Politics Plus: Dean Supports CompromiseTomCathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-73700032542290250892009-12-11T12:04:28.221-08:002009-12-11T12:04:28.221-08:00Well said, Sue.
Pauline, I agree. Real reform is...Well said, Sue.<br /><br />Pauline, I agree. Real reform is a single-payer system, but the Dems gave up that before the negotiation started.<br /><br />Fly, he knows more about what's in the bill than we do.<br /><br />Lisa, there is one thing more that impresses me, if I understand correctly: a requirement that Big Insurance pay out 90% of their income on benefits. I think the current TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-69221463360840436222009-12-10T16:23:34.962-08:002009-12-10T16:23:34.962-08:00Marva; The last thing i saw yesterday was 600$per ...Marva; The last thing i saw yesterday was 600$per month until the subsidies kick in which would be 2014. So if this is true, people will keep their own insurance, and the people that do not have any, as myself. will not be able to afford 500, or 600$ per month. If person is 65 they pay 95$ and change. why the 600 for 55-65. Because the ins corps have to much influence and the dems cave in again.Tao Dao Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16229628652152584292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-48740097105935705712009-12-10T16:08:41.789-08:002009-12-10T16:08:41.789-08:00Just what does this "buy in" cost somebo...Just what does this "buy in" cost somebody who might be qualified? <br /><br />Qualification is also unclear. I'm 55+ and have insurance through my retirement plan that I pay a cool $500/month for (starting in January). Since I have insurance (ha!) does that mean I couldn't get the medicare option?<br /><br />Yesterday, I fell down and possibly broke a rib. Everybody said, &Cellophane Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08166797508899835493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-62254630260424715162009-12-10T15:34:53.950-08:002009-12-10T15:34:53.950-08:00Right now it is being billed as a win for Republic...Right now it is being billed as a win for Republicans and insurance companies as we expected it would be all along!jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-46258897798823269532009-12-10T14:57:43.138-08:002009-12-10T14:57:43.138-08:00It's goinf to take time. The good news for ma...It's goinf to take time. The good news for many people I know who would love to retire and open their jobs up to someone else is that now they may not have to wait until they qualify for Medicare at 65. <br /><br /> The republicans are like dogs. It takes a while to potty train them. But keep rewarding them with what they think are little victories and eventually we'll get where we Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-16776736793210450242009-12-10T13:53:15.005-08:002009-12-10T13:53:15.005-08:00Thanks, TC. Nice summary.
I agree with RZ as well...Thanks, TC. Nice summary.<br /><br />I agree with RZ as well.<br /><br />But it's beginning to feel like that we "wait and see" as they run off with the loot.<br /><br />S<br /><br /><i>They are caving in on this, so they can further other agendas. Problem---cave in, after cave in,--- and sooner or later there is nothing left.</i>Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-52837827622638454772009-12-10T11:18:54.851-08:002009-12-10T11:18:54.851-08:00I agree with Infidel. While not a radical reform,...I agree with Infidel. While not a radical reform, any incremental reform is an improvement, and vastly better than what we would have had with the GOP in charge (which would be nothing different from what we've had all along).<br /><br />I like the Medicare buy-in option for those over 55. (Being 56 and about to retire, naturally I would like this). Yes, it may not be subsidized until 2014Mauigirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529827915262851910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-85863606696163749092009-12-10T09:59:47.774-08:002009-12-10T09:59:47.774-08:00Part of these [compromises] is to keep the Dem Par...Part of these [compromises] is to keep the Dem Party intact. They are caving in on this, so they can further other agendas. Problem---cave in, after cave in,--- and sooner or later there is nothing left.Tao Dao Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16229628652152584292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-76716129531844196522009-12-10T09:41:02.559-08:002009-12-10T09:41:02.559-08:00Honestly, I sometimes wonder why I bother voting -...<i>Honestly, I sometimes wonder why I bother voting - they're all the same assholes anyway</i>.<br /><br />With all due respect -- and counting myself as one of those who is disappointed in Obama (while recoginzing the positive things he's done as well as the negative), do you think we'd be getting even this much from a Republican-dominated Congress? Would 2000-2008 have been just asInfidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-85374106994289129412009-12-10T08:34:08.683-08:002009-12-10T08:34:08.683-08:00This is NOT reform in any sense of the matter. Th...This is NOT reform in any sense of the matter. This is just an extension of Medicare to include more people. What about the rest of us? We get jack shit like always. Honestly, I sometimes wonder why I bother voting - they're all the same assholes anyway. And what's up with Dean? He should be denouncing this from the highest roof top? I'll wait to see what's in the rest of Lisa G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02909155560510148815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-9967789791425729122009-12-10T05:27:02.527-08:002009-12-10T05:27:02.527-08:00Did Dean get bought or threatened too??Did Dean get bought or threatened too??One Flyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03772881642197609507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-71294250805939015722009-12-10T03:59:44.868-08:002009-12-10T03:59:44.868-08:00real health care reform would require throwing the...real health care reform would require throwing the current baby out with the bath water and getting a new babyPaulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14555472024981357622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4776805599159893803.post-32138027392993295872009-12-10T03:34:32.613-08:002009-12-10T03:34:32.613-08:00I listened to Weiner last night too. I'm witho...I listened to Weiner last night too. I'm witholding comment til we get the full truth. I'm really growing weary of the constant disappointments. Infidel said it right, it's not that we're unhappy with what Obama hasn't done, we're unhappy with what he HAS DONE.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18303260031729868857noreply@blogger.com